9 comments

  • Cider9986 1 hour ago
    THere's also archive.today who does great user-directed archiving. We don't appreciate this infrastructure some random guy runs enough.

    It's annoying how often archive.org blocks sites but they both complement each other very well.

    https://liberapay.com/archiveis/donate

    https://coindrop.to/archive

    When finding archive.today's Monero donation address just now, I had to use archive.org because donatemonero.org [1] is down.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20260526080016/https://donatemon...

    • LeoPanthera 1 hour ago
      Um. You mean the same site that uses its captcha page to DDOS sites the owner doesn't agree with, and was banned from use on Wikipedia because the owner was modifying the archived pages?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today#2026_attack_on_G...

      I don't think we should be supporting this random guy, no.

      • andai 1 hour ago
        Well then another guy should provide a technically equivalent and morally superior service ;)
        • markasoftware 26 minutes ago
          I mean, lots of other archive.* sites exist and do the same thing minus problematic behavior, such as archive.is, archive.oh (though maybe some are operated by the same individual...)
          • plorg 19 minutes ago
            Are any of those not run by the archive.today guy? That site has like a dozen aliases.
      • Cider9986 28 minutes ago
        And archive.org removes perfectly legal content from their accessible archives. Nobody's perfect. The guy running archive.today has done a shit ton of good.
    • qingcharles 1 hour ago
      Absolutely deserves a donation too. How it keeps running is beyond me, especially as he/she/they keep adding more paywall bypasses on the backend.
  • pm90 1 hour ago
    It was super easy to donate; Im so glad they have a landing page that supports several payment methods and makes it easy to donate. I love the wayback machine, hope everyone pitches in : ).
  • arjie 1 hour ago
    I do like the Internet Archive but I wish I could retrieve large segments from it myself. It has very aggressive 429s. It would be a nice higher donor tier feature. Maybe it’s not possible to do so and retain 501c3 status? Regardless I have had to start performing personal datahoarding. C’est la vie.
    • thechairman12 45 minutes ago
      They posted on X about supporting this when someone was spamming them with requests
    • eru 1 hour ago
      I wonder if they could sell you access to a bittorrent tracker? Officially it would be independent of the donations, just an extra service they sell?
      • queenkjuul 8 minutes ago
        They have torrent downloads for a lot of content, I've downloaded almost a terabyte from them via torrent, they're just not bundled, as in you would need to retrieve each torrent file for each item individually, which might still get you a 429 if you automated it idk.

        I've never actually got a 429 using a browser though personally, they do throttle aggressively though

  • sonicrocketman 1 hour ago
    Just posting this so others can be reminded to donate the archive (no association by me, just a fan).
  • totalconfusion 1 hour ago
    Who's paying?
    • killingtime74 1 hour ago
      I click through to a few links and cannot find who is doing the matching
      • Daneel_ 0 minutes ago
        That’s what I want to know before committing too.
    • colesantiago 1 hour ago
      Let's be honest, almost nobody is donating a significant amount i.e. $100K+ to the Internet Archive that would actually keep them alive.

      Everyone wants to scrape and extract from them 100% for free.

  • qingcharles 1 hour ago
    Just donated. Appreciate the reminder.
  • akudha 1 hour ago
    How do they handle AI slop? If they index AI generated articles, it is just not sustainable, right?
  • crewman9 1 hour ago
    Yeah, _no_

    Shut ClimateGPT down, apologize and then we can talk about donation.

    • LastTrain 53 minutes ago
      That is Internet Archive Europe, which is independent from Internet Archive
    • eru 1 hour ago
      Interesting. How is ClimateGPT linked to archive.org, and why do you object to it?
      • kalleboo 52 minutes ago
      • stonogo 53 minutes ago
        ClimateGPT is built by Erasmus.AI, which says "Built by Erasmus.AI on behalf of the ClimateGPT Foundation, and supported by the Internet Archive Europe,".

        Brewster Kahle, Internet Archive founder (and board chair), is on the board of Erasmus.AI.

        It does seem weird to rattle the donation box because hosting costs are going up while shooting money at the prime cause of hosting costs going up.

        • LastTrain 51 minutes ago
          They are independent organizations with separate funding.
          • crewman9 22 minutes ago
            then why did the main IA account post about this https://mastodon.archive.org/@internetarchive/11721950124572...

            and it's darkly funny how HN downvotes this when every single answer on Mastodon is incredibly negative

          • stonogo 24 minutes ago
            Brewster Kahle is on IA Europe's board as well (with Daniel Erasmus, whose baby is Erasmus.AI).

            I'm sure they have separate bank accounts, but let's not pretend these organizations are independent. They're all run by the same little club of friends.

    • RileyJames 1 hour ago
      What should archive.org apologise for in this regard?