GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

(github.com)

61 points | by microtonal 1 hour ago

8 comments

  • Maskawanian 28 minutes ago
    Does anyone know if this is something that we can install now, or if it will show up in the next OS release?
    • flexagoon 22 minutes ago
      You can go to the GOS App Store, choose the Messaging app, click 3 dots at the top and choose the Alpha release channel to get it now
    • novafunc 24 minutes ago
      They mentioned you can use the Alpha from their app installer.
      • Maskawanian 21 minutes ago
        Good to know! For others: You open their app store, go into messaging, hamburger menu, select release channel, and choose alpha.
    • gib444 25 minutes ago
      It's in the alpha channel. Go in to the 'App Store' app, go to Messaging, 3 dot menu and change release channel.
  • cloudie78 42 minutes ago
    How about some screenshots?
    • qweqwe14 33 minutes ago
      I constantly see those projects that would benefit from a screenshot in a readme, but for some reason the thought about adding one doesn't even come to the authors' mind, even though it's pretty obvious. I'd really like to know what's going on.
      • gbalduzzi 12 minutes ago
        I think in many cases the authors value functionality much more then esthetics.

        Which is a bummer because it is a complete different point of view from the more typical user experience

  • mewse-hn 44 minutes ago
    Does it do RCS?
  • LoganDark 58 minutes ago
    That was really fast, they only announced it like a day or two ago IIRC? Also: no screenshots of the redesigned interface?!
    • getpokedagain 55 minutes ago
      If you look at the history they have been working on this for a few months. The announcement probably was tied to this public release being cut for testing.
  • lollobomb 20 minutes ago
    Now, can we please get the long-awaited full system backup feature? We pay you for a reason!

    (sarcasm obvious, but indeed full system backup is sorely missing. Seedvault is crap, not an option)

  • mmooss 43 minutes ago
    With a seemingly insurmountable workload - maintain an actually secure OS fork - for a small team, I wonder how GrapheneOS prioritizes things like messaging apps? I'm not saying it's wrong at all; I am just interested in the thinking inside a project like that.

    I can imagine many reasons to devote resources to it:

    * A platform is only as good as its apps. If they want to grow GOS in the general public, it requires a good SMS/MMS messaging app.

    * LLM tools greatly reduce development costs, especially for well-known functions like text messaging.

    * Without secure messaging (as far as SMS/MMS can be secure), the platform security is greatly reduced.

    * GOS got a big donation, or has a volunteer that wants to do messaging ...

    But idk what I'm talking about. What is their approach?

    • ravenstine 22 minutes ago
      Well they're going to be shipping GOS on Motorola and I think some other devices, so basic things like the messaging app need to actually have some polish to them. I really like GrapheneOS overall as-is, but the messaging app felt like baby's first texting app. Not necessarily their fault since it's pretty much straight out of AOSP if I understand correctly. But any time I've installed GrapheneOS, the messaging app is one of two things I must replace every time (the other being the downright bad AOSP keyboard).

      If they fix(ed) their messaging app and their keyboard, then they've really eliminated a lot of potential complaints if a less tech-savvy crowd ends up buying future Motorolas.

    • flexagoon 16 minutes ago
      I you look at the commits of the new Messages app it's mostly made by 2 people whose Github profiles show them as employees of GrapheneOS and who are mostly committing to different system apps. So I assume they have a separate team of devs whose job it is to make the system apps.

      IIRC when they started first announced their replacement for the AOSP camera they said they hired a developer specifically for it.

  • gib444 35 minutes ago
    Looks prettier but a shame an obvious regression happened for one of my primary use-cases: copying one-time codes. Long pressing on a link selects the entire SMS instead of bringing up a menu for the link. [0]

    Makes me wonder about all the testing now

    And the issue worded/tagged as a feature instead of a regression. Are the devs aware the feature existed before?

    later:

    It's doubly disappointing because just 4 days ago the project wrote [1], on using AI for the new Messaging app:

    "it's also helping us raise our standards for our own work by pointing it at that to get extremely pedantic criticism catching many things we would miss...We've hired multiple experienced app developers who have spent months working on modernizing the Messaging app and carefully reviewing it"

    [0] https://github.com/GrapheneOS/Messaging/issues/292

    [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49592770

  • chadgpt3 38 minutes ago
    Everyone who values privacy should use GrapheneOS
    • bramhaag 32 minutes ago
      I do not see Electron anywhere? It looks like a native Android app that uses Jetpack Compose.
    • gib444 4 minutes ago
      [delayed]