Wax motor

(en.wikipedia.org)

163 points | by mhb 1 day ago

13 comments

  • alexpotato 8 minutes ago
    The greenhouse vents example reminds me a lot of a float valve (or ballcock).

    It's a simple mechanism that used buoyancy to either open or close valves as water level changes in a container.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballcock

  • limaoscarjuliet 1 hour ago
    Wikipedia page has a small error. It shows an actuator (i.e. wax motor) described as thermostatic radiator valve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wax_motor#/media/File:Thermisc...

    These are two separate things: thermostat will close and open based on surrounding temp., the actuator on the other hand opens and closes based on energizing a heating element that is driven by a separate thermostat.

    Wax motors are pretty cool things. They rarely fail and do their job even in damp environments. I take care of my better half's hotel with approx 100 of these installed and we replace one of these once every couple of years.

    • ta988 1 hour ago
      As you seem to know how to explain that would you mind fixing it? You don't even need an account.
    • echoangle 27 minutes ago
      Wouldn't the thermostatic radiator valves contain a wax motor? According to the definition in the article, using ambient heat as the energy source counts. Or are you saying it's only a wax motor if there's electric heating?
    • agumonkey 1 hour ago
      I was quite amazed to find these when dismantling appliances.
      • limaoscarjuliet 1 hour ago
        Me too, took me some time to figure out what this thing does :-)
    • pak9rabid 1 hour ago
      Boy I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder!
  • palmotea 2 hours ago
    If you want to see one in action, I found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sApyrDEXGAI
    • 7373737373 14 minutes ago
      Here is a timelapse of one opening a greenhouse window as it gets warm: https://youtube.com/watch?v=S-55VBYbbdo
    • lemarchr 56 minutes ago
      It was so refreshing to see a video with a clear and direct title. In 2026 this would have been "We cracked open a motor. You won't believe what we found inside! <emoji>". Checking the channel, it seems they have succumbed to this for their latest videos.
  • kazinator 2 hours ago
    The expansion of paraffin wax is substantial. I have experience wax potting guitar pickups as well as bicycle chains. I use a skinny, tall tin can for this, placed in boiling water. When the liquid wax solidifies, it not only pulls away from the sides of the can so that the resulting ingot slides out freely, but a void forms in the center. The top surface has a depression and a deep hole in the center.
  • cbdumas 3 hours ago
    I'm surprised this page doesn't mention the automotive thermostat which uses the same principle to control the flow of coolant between the engine block and radiator in an ICE vehicle.
  • WJW 2 hours ago
    Using this as a greenhouse vent actuator is pretty cool. It just makes so much sense.
  • bonkabonka 2 hours ago
    Big Clive took one to bits some years back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPuvhnIoz2g
    • LeoPanthera 2 hours ago
      What a treasure Big Clive is. Educational, entertaining, and zero of those YouTube cliches and clickbait that everyone hates. I don't think he's ever said "Like and subscribe" literally ever.
  • rogerdickey 1 hour ago
    Wax elements are also used in thermostatic valves for faucets (to keep faucet temperature constant given variable hot and cold mains): https://rogerdickey.com/the-ideal-faucet/
    • sublinear 1 hour ago
      Hard disagree with that faucet design, but is a neat idea. I like my bathroom faucet as low maintenance as it already is.

      The use case for the full unmixed hot tap is hygiene (usually washing face and shaving).

      I also don't want any hot water mixed in when I'm washing my hands. The water coming out of the unmixed cold tap indicates the ambient temperature of the pipes. That's a feature, not a bug.

      • discardable_dan 45 minutes ago
        You should use warm water when you're washing your hands.
        • sublinear 25 minutes ago
          Why?

          I'm already upset enough about what the water heater water is doing to my skin and am about to go tankless under my bathroom sink!

          That's by far the more practical option anyway if we truly cared about the problem instead of fawning over engineer porn. The problem is solved. This is pointless engagement about temperature preference masquerading as something more interesting.

          • maxerickson 4 minutes ago
            It used to be public health recommendation (bathrooms in commercial buildings will often only have warm water, for example, because code required it).

            There's been studies demonstrating that soap is what matters.

          • mkmk 9 minutes ago
            Solubility is a function of temperature.
      • rogerdickey 43 minutes ago
        at least in my home, both the cold and the hot water are very uncomfortable to wash my hands in, but mixing it right takes ~15s every time so i usually just accept the discomfort
  • post_break 1 hour ago
    My mini truck uses a couple of these with vacuum lines to control the choke and EGR. They are expensive to replace for obvious reasons.
    • WJW 1 hour ago
      Why is this obvious? Beeswax is not particularly expensive I think?
      • monocasa 1 hour ago
        Because they're not being manufactured much anymore.
  • moron4hire 2 hours ago
    Objects like this make me think of grimdark (steam|diesel)punk works like the video games Dishonored or BioShock. It feels like there's a touch of occultism or corruption whenever one creates a device that exploits analog side effects to create machines in a closed, black-box package.
    • wvbdmp 2 hours ago
      I see what you mean, but it’s less the exploitation itself than its immediacy and legibility. It doesn’t vanish behind a million abstractions or complicated miniaturization processes but can be readily experienced and understood, like steam.

      On the other hand one might as well associate it with “solar punk”, especially when powered by ambient temperature.

      • bee_rider 1 hour ago
        Yes, it seems generally *punk. It’s funny that steam, diesel, and solar punk have this association with immediacy.

        Does the originator, cyberpunk? Lots of cyberpunk stories present us with a society that is dominated by a digital abstraction. But the protagonist is special, so, they might not be.

        • relaxing 7 minutes ago
          I think the “punk” in cyberpunk was about the AI having a gritty, streetwise protagonist to enable it/fight against it. Extremely immediate.
    • WJW 2 hours ago
      I have bad news to tell you about your "digital" computer.
    • quickthrowman 2 hours ago
      > Objects like this make me think of grimdark (steam|diesel)punk works like the video games Dishonored or BioShock. It feels like there's a touch of occultism or corruption whenever one creates a device that exploits analog side effects to create machines in a closed, black-box package.

      The second sentence also fits for field effect transistors and solid state electronics in general.

      In the spirit of grimdark steampunk, have you ever heard of pneumatic logic? I still see these systems operating normally in some older mechanical rooms, it’s cool to see them still working after 40-50 years.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumatic_circuit

  • curtisblaine 1 hour ago
    I have this in the greenhouse that came with my house. Seeing its roof closed in fall after it had been open all summer made me question my sanity.
  • ck2 1 hour ago
    now go blow your mind with the first known conversion of electrical to mechanical energy via "Franklin Bells"

    TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE years ago

    in 1752, wow

    (but they had no idea why it worked)

    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_bells

    Before the storm, the device would ring to remind Franklin, who had been obsessed with the study of lightning, urging him to chase the lightning

    ha "chase the lightning" needs to be a catchphrase

  • IshKebab 2 hours ago
    I once had an interview at PA consulting where they asked one of those questions where they have "the answer" but their question isn't well specified enough to lead to that unique answer. They kept adding conditions, but I hadn't ever heard of wax actuators before. (I was like 19 or something - didn't get that job!)